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Kemosabe
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Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 10:10 am:    Edit PostPrint Post   Delete PostView Post/Check IP  Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

First off, let me start by saying that I don't mean to come off as a ruthless complainer who can't be satisfied but I have never (and I do mean never)come across such poor customer service in my life.
I purchased my #7 about two months ago and my wife and I absolutely love the quality and the taste of the food that we prepare on it. I am a chef by profession, and food cooked on a k has unique taste, texture and moisture content. It's just wonderful. Because I work for a large university as a chef, we entertain many professors, phds and physicians. All of them rave about the dishes that we serve them from our #7. But when they ask for my recommendation as to whether they should purchase one, I have to honestly hesitate before giving it.
My Kamado arrived two weeks late, which generally speaking isn't too bad considering it's an item that is a piece of kraftsmanship. However, I was told that it was "absolutely" going to be shipped on a specific date and was given the explanation (unsolicited by me) that the reason it had not been shipped as scheduled was because it was going to be one of the first kamados ever shipped with the new gas burner. I was very happy and excited about this, and grateful that the company was offering me their best product.
Seven days later, there was no #7 at my door and no tracking number in my hand. I telephoned and was pretty surprised to find that my k had never been shipped. When it did arrive (over a week after my phone call), it housed the old gas burner.
I spoke with Richard who assured me that I would receive the entire kit for the new burner. He then gave me to another employee so that my address, etc. could be taken down. Everyone was being so nice, and I enjoyed the prospects of my new k so much, that I decided to order four pieces of accessories. I thought how convenient it would be to have it arrive all at once.
Over the next several weeks, I had to contact the kamado company three times in order to get my new burner and accessories shipped to me. Each time I was assured that it would be shipped "today." I was told the last time that I "had slipped through the cracks." - nice way to gain the loyalty of a new customer.
My burner and accessories arrived yesterday. Guess what? The necessary cover plates and the Lumpsaver plus were not packed. I could not fit my new burner into my k with the old firebox so I STILL don't have the kamado grill that I orgionally ordered and have been promised numerous times.
How do I get this company to fufill it's promise to me? I have fifty guests, all from the university for whom I work, coming to our home in two weeks for a BBQ party. Due the fact that my old burner burned out on me and gives off a plastic, toxic odor when I use it ("Um, yeah ... that happens sometimes. That's one of the reasons we developed a new burner." I was told.)I can't even use a gas burner after paying for one months ago!
Any suggestions? I've telephoned the company five times since yesterday and not one response. To bad too! I love my grill! I just want what I paid for!
Thanks for the help and the ear,
Kemosabe
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Jaimie
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Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 10:46 am:    Edit PostPrint Post   Delete PostView Post/Check IP  Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Been there too...

I've contemplated ordering a folding side table and grill scraper, but nothing fires me up more than having to wait... and wait... and wait... and being told otherwise.

Good luck.
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Kemosabe
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Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 11:39 am:    Edit PostPrint Post   Delete PostView Post/Check IP  Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It really is a sad state of affairs. It reminds me of what happens to so many excellent chefs who's expertise in the kitchen is completely over-shadowed by their inability to run the business side of things. Many great products have been ruined in the market place simply because craftsmen and artists can't or won't turn the organization aspect over to someone who is equally skilled in that part of the business arena.
The K company just telephoned me and promises to send off the new firebox, lumpsaver plus, and side covers "today." We'll be watching ... I know one thing: if I don't have this grill completed and up and running by the time we host our next party - I will never purchase another thing from Kamado and I will never recommend them to anyone. I say that sadly because the k itself is a great, great product.
Kemosabe
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Ducky
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Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 12:57 pm:    Edit PostPrint Post   Delete PostView Post/Check IP  Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is sad...very sad. In fact I WAS really interested in purchasing one of the #7's (don't have a Kamado yet) and I tried calling Kamado several times today...but no answer. Do they have like 1 person working there or what?? I came to the board here to see if there were any posts about their service...and lo & behold...this here post from you, Kemosabe.

This sucks as I really want to get one...but if I can't get anyone on the phone...and obviously taking your comments into consideration, Kemosabe...I'll definitely have to step back and take another look at the situation before shelling out $$$ on this thing. I don't want to end up in the end kicking dust saying "I knew it! I knew it!"...knowing the company's service is (currently...hopefully) below par. And yeah..it's especially frustrating when it arrives and things are not in order like you said on top of being delivered way past the "due date".

Our first daughter's birthday is coming up and we are doing some wild things in the backyard and after doing quite alot of research on pits, etc. and I was really leaning towards a Kamado, but man...I'm deathly afraid now. Got any other suggestions, Kemosabe??

Hopefully someone around here can throw some encouragement and justification for the "lack of quality service" this company offers. Really...Richard or whoever needs to stand up and speak up right now...if not, they might lose another customer.

Again...there are great things about the product and I'm sure there are alot of folks out there that got their Kamado working perfectly out of the box...but there are those folks that never had that luxury, like Kemosabe, and it really takes a toll on the enthusiasm for this unique product/company.

I feel for you, Kemosabe.
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Seattlesooner
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Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 3:32 pm:    Edit PostPrint Post   Delete PostView Post/Check IP  Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I also feel your pain. I received my #7 about a year ago. Same story as kemosabe, a little hitch getting it delivered but nothing I would complain about. The K is great and although it doesn't walk on water like some on the board claim, I wouldn't trade it for any other grill. It smokes at 200 degrees for hours on end, it will grill at 650 (or higher), it will bake a great pizza and bread.

However, I wanted the new gas unit and called (several times) and finally reached Richard and made the order on June 3. Nice fellow to talk to, raved about the new gas unit and how much I would enjoy it. They sent me an e-mail with an invoice and a question about natural gas or propane. I e-mailed back (I wanted propane and ordered an upper grill while I was at it.) I have heard nothing since then and I have made several follow up e-mails with no response.

I love my K but(and at the risk of never receiving my gas unit) you begin to feel that you are in a Seinfeld episode about soup.




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Kemosabe
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Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 4:28 pm:    Edit PostPrint Post   Delete PostView Post/Check IP  Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks to all for your sympathy and time. Ducky, you asked if I had any suggestions. At this point I'm really lost. I can tell you that the K does really cook in a very unusual way in terms of it being ceramic and that does produce a lot of options. I'm just as interested in baking in it as I am smoking meats, etc.. So on one hand, the damned grill is great . BUT the question is HOW MUCH are you willing to put up with? I think part of the problem is that they might be a small company that in part, because of the internet, is currently trying to function as a large company. Maybe they're just in above their heads or something. One example of what I mean is the total lack of instructions that have come with the new burner that was sent to my home. Maybe they just forgot to send them or maybe they haven't written any but it's really kind of dangerous and negligent. I'm messing with installing a new gas burner to a natural gas line that I had installed from my home specifically for my new k without any instructions. I'm a chef! Not a frickin' plumber! It's like "can you spell liability?" :-) Even my new step ladder has instructions to escape law suits. So, I guess i would suggest buy a k but understand now that it's a grass roots item and it has special problems as well as special features. If that concerns you, look elsewhere. It IS a great grill though in all fairness. I just called the K company again this evening and they are shipping my stuff tonight. I actually got a tracking number this time. That's one thing I learned - GET A TRACKING NUMBER! Seattlesooner: So sorry about your not receiving your order and you are right - it is the soup episode! :-)
Kemosabe
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Ducky
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Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 7:58 pm:    Edit PostPrint Post   Delete PostView Post/Check IP  Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You're right,Kemosabe...in fact I was even considering a Klose BBQ pit and called and ask them about natural gas and they said they don't even bother with it because of the INSURANCE. Can you imagine?? One of the best metal pits...if not the best...won't even entertain Natural Gas.

So that brings me to another question...if I decide to get the the (Natural) Gas parts - how in the world would I install it?? Who in their right mind will come and install it for me? I know zilch about messing with gas lines/meters and by-golly...I doubt that anyone would come and install it for me if it's not their own product (or shop where you buy a pit from)...simply like you said...because of LIABILITY; I wouldn't even know who to start calling to do this for me anyway. I'm not so interested in using gas now...but since I do have NG then the option is nice.

And it's scary to think that the "old" parts had a serious problem and that new units/orders are going out with those old parts and the customers have no idea. Holy cow...if Richard's got insurance...which he better have...I'm sure it's damned expensive for him or else if someone out there installs it wrong or the old gas parts go out and hurt someone, you can bet there will be a serious lawsuit happenin'.

Well...right now, as far as Ceramic options...there's not too many choices...so BGE or Primo and right now probably leaning more towards BGE since they've been around a long time and I can by it down the street (weighs a helluva alot less too), but yes, you're right...the Kamados are "beautiful", massive and do a helluva job, but like anything else you buy...for the money..this is not an Impulse Buy, but rather a process of elimination through research for me. And of course, service and support fits into the equation.

At least with a BGE, I can run down to my local BBQ shop and purchase it...if any problems....either run right back over there or have them send someone out...no waiting...no calling...no emailing. Geez...I think I just convinced myself to buy a BGE :-)

No really, I will have to weigh the pros and cons...and who knows, maybe I will end up getting a Kamado...but I will definitely sleep on it for awhile before making that final decision.

Cheers,
Ducky
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Bcw
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Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 9:06 pm:    Edit PostPrint Post   Delete PostView Post/Check IP  Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ducky-
Forget the gas option...you won't need it. I've had my 7 for a year and a half, and have had my problems with getting some things on a timely basis, but eventually things get resolved. It is not the way I would run a company, but it isn't mine to run. The truth of the matter is that it is a superior looking and performing product. I have also had a BGE which got left elsewhere in a divorce...don't miss the BGE or the ex. I have a Kamado and a new wife, and they are both a big step up from my prior situation! If you get the 7 or whatever you are looking at, you will be in for a real treat. All of this customer service stuff will work itself out. I think they hired a guy to expedite problems. Might want to check the archives for his name. I recall that he is on the ball per other posts. There are a lot of things to get one's blood pressure up...this isn't one of them.
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Sidncid
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Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 4:49 am:    Edit PostPrint Post   Delete PostView Post/Check IP  Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ditto on BCW's comments, yes Kamado's customer service can be a little lax, but the majority of owners didn't buy a K because of great customer service. We bought ours because it is the most beautiful and best performing grill money can buy.

We could have bought a BGE in town but compared to a Kamado they look like a cheap toy. I suggest you search their archives and see how many K owners switched to BGE. Then come back here and see the many K owners who will not go back to BGE.

We waited almost 5 months for a Kustom #7(Conway broke the first one) . After nearly a year of using it, we would gladly wait another five months to get one.

The gas option was never even considered, we can stabalize our #7 within 30 to 40 minutes at any temperature. Besides the last we heard you should let meat come to room temperature for 20 to 30 minutes anyway.
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Beicke
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Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 6:40 am:    Edit PostPrint Post   Delete PostView Post/Check IP  Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ducky, The man you want to talk to at Kamado is Darryl, he has been able to help me and I think they (Kamado) are having him handle customer relations. Brian
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Ducky
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Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 9:45 am:    Edit PostPrint Post   Delete PostView Post/Check IP  Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well...I'm still a bit skeptical really as Richard posted that Darryl was on-board with customer service since June 4th and it seems as Kemosabe STILL has problems and now we're nearing the end of July. So...I think Darryl might have his hands full and needs more help. Maybe they currently don't have the resources to have more manpower, but that's not my problem. I'm in the oilfield business and worked overseas and in this business the client always "wants it yesterday" and therefore we bust our butt to make them happy or else we will lose them. It's a no-brainer and no different from any other business.

Anyway, I can understand your point of view, Beicke...you have the patience and alot of us don't. It's not the waiting as so much they tell you it's going to be delivered and it doesn't; you've got to continually chase them up or else you will "fall through the cracks" as Kemosabe was told. THAT..is a big no-no... How can one feel that they are getting personal/quality service when that happens, especially when you pay 50% up front!??

I've been checking out Primo's site as well and they have a new Oval pot and it looks pretty cool. If you scan the posts on their forum or look at the Usenet discussions...I find that alot of people are really happy with them and always praise the owner has he goes upside down to please all of his customers. Now, I can understand they may not be a big company, but you've got to commend him for the personal attention he gives to his customers as he realizes in the long-run it's word-of-mouth that will sell him.

One thing I thought was interesting is that George (owner of Primo) has designed a new crack-proof firebox. He said, if you read the posts, that once he's got all the kinks worked out of it...then he will replace your cracked firebox with this newly developed one for free. Now is that is cool... I wonder if Kamado has issued a PRODUCT RECALL on the all the faulty Natural Gas parts sold? Hard to imagine if Kemosabe got his Kamado with an old gas part recently. Ouch! now that scares me.

Don't get me wrong...I'm not against Kamado...it's just right now that after numerous phone calls I couldn't get anyone on the phone and the various posts I've read in here about how long it takes...parts not coming in as ordered...temperature hole not drilled, old gas parts and finally the lack of customer service....gets me worried and I start to wonder and contemplate. Sometimes I think I'm jinxed and I'm always the lucky one that has to go through this kind of BS. I'm sure they will sort themselves out eventually, but right now I want a ceramic cooker and I don't want to wait and take a chance of headaches to come when the evidence is there that will most probably happen.

As far as quality is concerned, Beicke...yeah, I'm sure the Kamado cooks up a bad boy meal...but it's not all the pit...meals are typically are only as good as the chef. Most posts I've read are that folks who have a Kamado also have a BGE or Primo and they say they all cook wonderfully. I can see where the Kamado will become more of a conversation piece than the other ones...but that's not my concern. I just want to be able to grill some burgers, chicken, steaks, etc. for the family, but at the same time satisfy my smoking needs and I'm finding out that these ceramic cookers are IT when it comes to both kinds of cooking.

I just hope they treat Kemosabe right especially if he's having a "BBQ Do" with 50 people coming up shortly. That's 50 more people Richard could have as customers and if Kemosabe puts in a bad word because he simply "fell through the cracks"...then it defeats the whole purpose of his business. 50 x $$ - you can do the math, so yes, that would be a significant order for Richard.

If I were Kamado..I'd get that thing delivered to him overnight as they have some catching up to do with him. And it's sad because when something like that happens...you start getting a bad taste in your mouth about the purchase you just made and normally that bad taste takes time to wear off.

Good luck, Kemosabe...Keep us posted on what happens and anymore thoughts you have on Kamado.

Cheers,
Ducky
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Guillermo
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Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 11:07 am:    Edit PostPrint Post   Delete PostView Post/Check IP  Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So that brings me to another question...if I decide to get the the (Natural) Gas parts - how in the world would I install it??

If I understand correctly, the new gas option is installed just by sliding it in as you'd slide in the non-gas draft door. The gas option comes pre-assembled.

Who in their right mind will come and install it for me? I know zilch about messing with gas lines/meters and by-golly...I doubt that anyone would come and install it for me if it's not their own product (or shop where you buy a pit from)...simply like you said...because of LIABILITY

I bet there are tens or even 100's (if you live in a big city) of companies that would be glad to come to your home and install an outdoor natural gas connection. They, I believe, would not care what you are connecting to it, very much like an electrician wouldn't care if you are connecting a sony, sanyo, JVC, etc TV to a new 100V 15Amps outlet. The gas connection installer job is to give you a well installed and pressure tested outlet, period.

I wouldn't even know who to start calling to do this for me anyway.

I don't live in the USofA but give me the name of your town/city and I can proably find you few companies that would do the job for you (that was a rethoric questions, BTW).

I'm not so interested in using gas now...

Good, I think you'll find a K works well on lump, alone.

but since I do have NG then the option is nice.

I thought that too, removed the gas option to do the break in of the K and haven't installed it back, yet.

And it's scary to think that the "old" parts had a serious problem and that new units/orders are going out with those old parts and the customers have no idea.

I don't think the "old" gas option has problems that the "new" one wouldn't have or that any outdoor burner wouldn't have, for that matter, that problem is keeping the flame on under heavy winds, that's why I'd never cook with gas alone as if the flame goes out, the burning charcoal itself would tend to re-ignite it, particularly with the new gas option. If someone has a gas-K in a windy area, the smart thing to do is to try to isolate the K from the wind and/or keep checking the flame is on.

Holy cow...if Richard's got insurance...which he better have...I'm sure it's damned expensive for him or else if someone out there installs it wrong or the old gas parts go out and hurt someone, you can bet there will be a serious lawsuit happenin'.

I hope he does have the insurance as most of you live in USofA (I don't) where people so each other all the time. But last time I read the gas manual (online at kamado.com) there were instructions about how to light the burner, you follow them and even if the flame goes out, you should be OK.

BTW. I am not defending their Customer Service as that is not at par with how good/beautiful the actual cooker is. It certainly needs lots of attention.

Guillermo
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Waderobin
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Hey Ducky,

My advice is to get in the soup line, place your order. I'm in the middle of some service issues as well. Have had the K since the first of the year, and love it. I agree. It's absolutely amazing that a company that makes such a great product, obviously doesn't even make an attempt at customer support. But, this is hard to say, the K is worth it. Place your order, hope it all comes in one piece (mine didn't). After 6 mo's with this awesome, top quality, beautiful cooker, with no support, I will say that I'd do it over again, and am glad I made the decision I did. I have definately lost some enthusiasm. Will not be attending the Cook-off (what for, just to meet and make eye contact with the people that won't even return my phone calls or reply to my email messages?!). But, I love the K and am sure that I will enjoy it probably for the rest of my life.

Also, I don't have the gas option and after the first day, have never needed it.

Kemosabe, You've got an awesome smoker. You've managed to get by without it for how many years? Do like me and try to get over being pissed about the support, be patient, and eventually, maybe / maybe not next week, you'll be Kooking up a storm.

Wade

p.s. That Darryl guy doesn't return emails or phone calls either.
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Hedglin
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I've also had problems with their service. I'm waiting for a replacement for my broken #9. I originally ordered it in October of 2001. It shipped end of January 2002 (after it was promised by Christmas of 2001). It arrived with hidden damage that I discovered a few days later when it was uncrated -- it was cracked under the hinge. I was promised a replacement and Richard said he would ship me some special cement to fix the crack. I waited 2 months for nothing to arrive, and ended up fixing it myself.

Sorry to say this, but Kamado's customer service is not at all good. I can't figure out if they intentionally don't pay attention to customer problems, or if they are just overwhelmed by the workload. In any case they are losing customer loyalty over time.
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Ducky
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That's it...I can't bear to read all the horror stories anymore.

Waderobin - you've got some huevos to stick up for them when you're obviously having issues with them too that are getting you quite upset. I guess you need to keep sane this way since you already have one. I'd probably be the same if it were me.

Hedglin - sorry you had to go through it as well and maybe one of these days you will get the cement fix in the mail. I guess like they told Kemosabe...you simply "fell through the cracks".

Well...3-4 days ago I was totally pysched about the possibility of getting a Kamado...but now that I have done more research, visited the forum and obviously hearing all of your stories...there's NO WAY I can buy from them now. I'm definitely not prepared to wait 6 months to get my order correct...that's baloney. It ain't THAT pretty to wait that long and go through the hassles.

It sounds like they have been like this for quite some time and still don't have their poop together. I can only imagine it's a matter of time that Darryl will leave as well if he gets bogged down too much...and sounds like he's their only support guy. If he leaves..then what? Shoot...all you guys may have to start trading parts on Ebay if you can't get any response out of these guys.

Anyway...I'm surprised Richard (or anyone from Kamado) hasn't replied to this thread yet. I guess it doesn't surprise most of you.

Good luck to all of you and hope you finally get what you ordered...this year.

Cheers,
Ducky
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Jaimie
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Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 2:17 pm:    Edit PostPrint Post   Delete PostView Post/Check IP  Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Richard, it may be wise to chime in soon as you have a mutany brewing amongst your customers (and would be customers).
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Kemosabe
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Greetings to all,
Let me just say that even if Kamado's customer support is the worst in the business, the support of all of you is the best. Being the one who started this thread, I've really enjoyed and benefited from your input.
A note to Ducky: You stated: "So that brings me to another question...if I decide to get the the (Natural) Gas parts - how in the world would I install it?? Who in their right mind will come and install it for me? I know zilch about messing with gas lines/meters and by-golly...I doubt that anyone would come and install it for me if it's not their own product (or shop where you buy a pit from)...simply like you said...because of LIABILITY; I wouldn't even know who to start calling to do this for me anyway. I'm not so interested in using gas now...but since I do have NG then the option is nice."
I'd like to try to help with that one. The first step in planning on putting in natural gas is to check if it's legal in your area. For example where I live in Upper State NY, attaching NG to an outside grill was legal in the 80s, made illegal in the 90s and then made legal again now. So the first step is checking with your Gas & Electric company. If it is legal, any reputable plumber can do it. Mine cost about $350. That was to attach a long pipe from the gas in my home to my outside patio. I also added some extra pipe that was extra wide for future expansion to my kitchen. It might be much cheaper for you.
Regarding the "(Natural) Gas parts:" Hopefully, if you did decide to buy a K, you would get one with the new burner installed. You could demand that configuration but I'm not sure what impact that would have. I was told that that was what I was getting and as you know, that's not what happened.
Regarding Bcw's statement: "Forget the gas option...you won't need it." I really think that only you can figure out whether or not you would prefer to have a gas option. There are several reasons why I do want it: 1) The convenience of starting lump. 2) The time factor: As Sidncid put it, "The gas option was never even considered, we can stabalize our #7 within 30 to 40 minutes at any temperature." - I don't have 30 - 40 minutes all the time and that would really cut down on how often I used my $1300. Kamado. 3) As hard as it is for me to admit this, because I tend to poo pah outside gas cooking, somethings actually cook better on gas. Many professional chefs will point this out. For example, many vegetables, thin cuts of meat , thin fillets of fish and in certain cases when you need a real even cooking temperature like in some Asian cooking. 4) The Emergency Factor: When you have guests and something goes wrong ( lump burns out by accident, etc.). - With gas you can save your ass without the hassle.
But my main point to you is not to convince you or anyone of anything. Only you know whether or not to buy a Kamado or a BGE or whatever and whether or not you want gas.
To both Waderobin and Hedglin, I can only extend my sympathy. It sounds like Hedglin has it much worse than me. But Waderobin, I must say, that I don't agree with you on one point: I am not "pissed" or I should say that's not the issue to me. This isn't a matter of being late or slow. It's unethical to falsify information to customers. It's one thing to deliver something late and quite another to tell a customer something that just isn't going to happen. If Kamado goes out of business one day because of their poor treatment of customers, that will have a big impact on all of us who bought their product.
Last night I was told that my new parts were being sent to me - "The truck's on the way to pick it up now to deliver it." I asked for a tracking number and was given one by Daryll (who's been the person I've been dealing with for weeks now). Guess what? Fedex doesn't have any knowledge of that tracking number. Maybe it's a mistake. Maybe it's a coincidence. Maybe it's an unethical way of dealing with people. I called and left a message asking if I had the number right, even though I double checked it with Daryll last night, and have received no response. This would not be the first time that I received false information.
But as everyone says, the damned grill is great. I do love it! But as consumers, we shouldn't have to choose between good products and fair treatment.
Thanks for all your time,
Kemosabe


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Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 3:41 pm:    Edit PostPrint Post   Delete PostView Post/Check IP  Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have reviewed our customer complaints and it seems that they occur on each full moon. Therefore, our customer service “department” will be closed every full moon until our company expansion is complete next year (just kidding, of course).

Actually, we are planning a big expansion which will include two or more service centers or distribution centers. I am sure this will smooth out our customer service.


Ducky or similar potential customers, I would suggest that you wait until this expansion is complete before considering purchasing a Kamado or any other of our products. No one is more than all of us here at the Kamado look forward to better serve our customers. The down side, of course, will be the need to increase prices.

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Harry
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Post Number: 306
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 4:07 pm:    Edit PostPrint Post   Delete PostView Post/Check IP  Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That is good advice, Richard, especially since you seem to be unable to keep up at present.

How about those of us who are "works-in-process", Richard? I've not had any response to my faxes and phone messages.

I need to know the status of my order and to reiterate that I need Nat Gas venturii along with a replacement part for my #3.

Harry
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Husker
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 5:09 pm:    Edit PostPrint Post   Delete PostView Post/Check IP  Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ducky,
I ordered a #7 over a year ago. I never had any problems to speak of with customer service. It came as ordered, without any problems. I ordered the gas option with mine and have since removed it and plugged the hole. I called them and asked for the cover plates for plugging the hole and they shipped them out that day! I had the old gas option and it was in the way. I still have my old gas grill, and use it when I am in a hurry.
The K is best, in my opinion, when used with lump charcoal only!

There is always a chance that things might go wrong! I am sure glad I took that chance!

(Message edited by husker on July 24, 2002)

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